Good stuff. I think most people, even Trump voters, aren't against immigrants or immigration, but they are against illegal immigration (and that includes most Hispanic residents and/or green card holders). When talking heads on MSNBC and CNN seriously ask in the run-up to the 2024 election "who's going to do construction work if we deport illegal immigrants?," it shows that the Democrats have really lost the plot. The supposed "left" party, giving up the humanitarian lens of immigration, and supporting illegal, underpaid, protection-free and often dangerous labor for skilled, (formerly) high-paid jobs? They sounded more economically to the right of the Republicans.
I was involved in letter-writing campaigns to keep undocumented people in my building, who are incredibly hard workers with good families and great neighbors, during the first Trump administration. Deporting people like that is plain cruel and counterproductive. We did however see a massive upswing in new migrants during the Biden presidency in NYC that were forced to compete for already ridiculously expensive and scarce housing, resources and infrastructure, and that was also cruel (to migrants and citizens). It's also true, even if you don't like Trump's rhetoric, that cartels involved in the fentanyl trade, violence, human trafficking and extortion of other immigrants have become a problem that we just shouldn't accept as a civilization.
Work should be safe, legal and have protections, and having undocumented people with the threat of deportation hanging over their head working in our country is a problem for everyone. We also need immigrant workers, now and especially if we do manage to bring more production back to the States (and we should; not utilizing exploited workers around the world should be our goal), but it should above-board, and with a path to citizenship. You're right that no one seems to fight for these goals, and somehow the Democrats have mostly become much worse on anything that would actually benefit working people.
Immigration is probably the most misunderstood issue in America. There is so much misinformation, lies, false narratives and fear mongering stoked by the GOP with help from Fox, conservative mass media and social media platforms.
Immigrants cannot vote, a majority cannot receive government assistance, they commit significantly less crime than native born Americans, they are more entrepreneurial than Americans. They do NOT carry illegal drugs or Fentanyl into America. Most cross our Southern border legally claiming, “asylum status”. They are fleeing unsustainable conditions that in large measure is blamed on American actions (US demand for illegal drugs, lax gun laws in Texas and emerging Climate Change effects).
Immigrants are not aliens from outer space; they are human beings, brothers and sisters of the American workforce. They build our homes, take care of children, work hard to supply food from our farms and are the cornerstone of our high-tech industry. They are the life blood of our American economy and culture. They are what makes America great ... for the last 50 years!
The bottom line .... we need immigrants as much as they need us! Embrace them, don't demonize them. We are all related to immigrants!
While I agree that we need immigrants, and legal immigration is good, a lot of what you're saying is just flatly untrue. There are certainly immigrants bringing fentanyl into the States, and that's not even a disputed fact or partisan talking point. 98% of fentanyl is coming across the southern border, much by cartels like Sinaloa. It's mostly originating in China, it appears, but it is being brought into America that way.
We need to be honest about the issues surrounding this topic and not obfuscate them. As outlined in this piece, most people can probably agree to safe, legal and controlled immigration, but that means being honest about importing illegal, off-the-books labor and incredibly destructive drugs.
The vast majority of those that cross the border are carry essential water, food and the clothes on their back. They are NOT carrying illegal drugs. It's a false narrative amplified by the GOP for political benefit.
Actually, the vast majority of drugs that cross the border come from via trucks and cars that pass through international gateways driven by Americans. They smuggle most of the illegal drugs. This is a fact one can easily research and verify.
Republicans want to conflate fleeing hard working desperate immigrants with illegal drugs. That again is a false narrative, a destructive lie.
Understand the major reason immigrants are fleeing their native nation is because of American policies that have harmed their small vulnerable nation. $10 billion/year of US funds flow to drug cartels for drugs. This US money fund the purchase of easy to access guns in Texas which inflict corruption and violence in Mexico and most Central America and Latin American nations. Then toss in the effects of Climate change which have created droughts and super destructive wealth events/hurricanes.
These innocent immigrants are fleeing for their lives. They are not profiteering via drugs. A few may but the vast majority are NOT. I believe you have been poisoned with misinformation about immigrants and drugs. The media is flooded with lies, hate and misinformation. Fear flies freely and quickly on the internet. The truth takes more time if it ever survives!
I have presented a mix of opinion and facts. Prove that I am “just making stuff up”. New information to you is NOT made up. Open your mind to differing views and new facts. Specifically, challenge any of my statements. There is so much misinformation that has saturated social media platforms. Its destructive, unproductive and dangerous.
Congrats on having the same exact policies as an average billionaire, very proud of you, make sure to put a rug or something under your knees so they don’t get bruised
we need immigrants as much as they need us
If we ignore AI, automation, and the fact that America already has countless useless jobs that shouldn’t exist, sure.
they commit significantly less crime than native born Americans
Every single crime committed by a foreigner is fundamentally avoidable.
However, the issue of immirgation can be easily resolved by modifying the existing system. If people like you start acting as sponsors for immigrants - like, for example, every person can sponsor… idk, 4-5 people at most? - and if said immigrants commit a crime, you share responsibility with them, I’m sure many people would accept it.
Of course, if an immigrant commits a murder, you’d go to jail as well; if they steal, you’d be held accountable as well, if they bring down wages of native citizens, you will pay out of your pocket to make up for it, etc - seem rather reasonable, no? You get what you want - immigrants - and you get to take on responsibility of it, and deal with consequences of it, instead of offloading people you fetishize onto the rest of society while pretending to be a good person™, and taking no responsibility when your ideals crash against reality
Unions membership is a shadow of what it used to be. The failure to stick up for workers is a big part of it. When will unions support American Workers?
Trying to paint illegal immigrants in a positive light by calling them hard working, is simply more BS. Why not say "hard working church going who help little old ladies across the street"?
I saw the numbers from the Bureau of Labor Statics, the St Louis Fed. Of all the job gains post pandemic they've all gone to workers born outside the US. US born worker new jobs has flatlined. Support workers of get out of the way so some or that does can rise up.
Good stuff. I think most people, even Trump voters, aren't against immigrants or immigration, but they are against illegal immigration (and that includes most Hispanic residents and/or green card holders). When talking heads on MSNBC and CNN seriously ask in the run-up to the 2024 election "who's going to do construction work if we deport illegal immigrants?," it shows that the Democrats have really lost the plot. The supposed "left" party, giving up the humanitarian lens of immigration, and supporting illegal, underpaid, protection-free and often dangerous labor for skilled, (formerly) high-paid jobs? They sounded more economically to the right of the Republicans.
I was involved in letter-writing campaigns to keep undocumented people in my building, who are incredibly hard workers with good families and great neighbors, during the first Trump administration. Deporting people like that is plain cruel and counterproductive. We did however see a massive upswing in new migrants during the Biden presidency in NYC that were forced to compete for already ridiculously expensive and scarce housing, resources and infrastructure, and that was also cruel (to migrants and citizens). It's also true, even if you don't like Trump's rhetoric, that cartels involved in the fentanyl trade, violence, human trafficking and extortion of other immigrants have become a problem that we just shouldn't accept as a civilization.
Work should be safe, legal and have protections, and having undocumented people with the threat of deportation hanging over their head working in our country is a problem for everyone. We also need immigrant workers, now and especially if we do manage to bring more production back to the States (and we should; not utilizing exploited workers around the world should be our goal), but it should above-board, and with a path to citizenship. You're right that no one seems to fight for these goals, and somehow the Democrats have mostly become much worse on anything that would actually benefit working people.
Immigration is probably the most misunderstood issue in America. There is so much misinformation, lies, false narratives and fear mongering stoked by the GOP with help from Fox, conservative mass media and social media platforms.
Immigrants cannot vote, a majority cannot receive government assistance, they commit significantly less crime than native born Americans, they are more entrepreneurial than Americans. They do NOT carry illegal drugs or Fentanyl into America. Most cross our Southern border legally claiming, “asylum status”. They are fleeing unsustainable conditions that in large measure is blamed on American actions (US demand for illegal drugs, lax gun laws in Texas and emerging Climate Change effects).
Immigrants are not aliens from outer space; they are human beings, brothers and sisters of the American workforce. They build our homes, take care of children, work hard to supply food from our farms and are the cornerstone of our high-tech industry. They are the life blood of our American economy and culture. They are what makes America great ... for the last 50 years!
The bottom line .... we need immigrants as much as they need us! Embrace them, don't demonize them. We are all related to immigrants!
While I agree that we need immigrants, and legal immigration is good, a lot of what you're saying is just flatly untrue. There are certainly immigrants bringing fentanyl into the States, and that's not even a disputed fact or partisan talking point. 98% of fentanyl is coming across the southern border, much by cartels like Sinaloa. It's mostly originating in China, it appears, but it is being brought into America that way.
We need to be honest about the issues surrounding this topic and not obfuscate them. As outlined in this piece, most people can probably agree to safe, legal and controlled immigration, but that means being honest about importing illegal, off-the-books labor and incredibly destructive drugs.
The vast majority of those that cross the border are carry essential water, food and the clothes on their back. They are NOT carrying illegal drugs. It's a false narrative amplified by the GOP for political benefit.
Actually, the vast majority of drugs that cross the border come from via trucks and cars that pass through international gateways driven by Americans. They smuggle most of the illegal drugs. This is a fact one can easily research and verify.
Republicans want to conflate fleeing hard working desperate immigrants with illegal drugs. That again is a false narrative, a destructive lie.
Understand the major reason immigrants are fleeing their native nation is because of American policies that have harmed their small vulnerable nation. $10 billion/year of US funds flow to drug cartels for drugs. This US money fund the purchase of easy to access guns in Texas which inflict corruption and violence in Mexico and most Central America and Latin American nations. Then toss in the effects of Climate change which have created droughts and super destructive wealth events/hurricanes.
These innocent immigrants are fleeing for their lives. They are not profiteering via drugs. A few may but the vast majority are NOT. I believe you have been poisoned with misinformation about immigrants and drugs. The media is flooded with lies, hate and misinformation. Fear flies freely and quickly on the internet. The truth takes more time if it ever survives!
You’re the one parroting “talking points,” and just making stuff up. Stop. Be normal. Be truthful. You’ll never win an argument this way.
??? Sounds like you are “projecting”.
I have presented a mix of opinion and facts. Prove that I am “just making stuff up”. New information to you is NOT made up. Open your mind to differing views and new facts. Specifically, challenge any of my statements. There is so much misinformation that has saturated social media platforms. Its destructive, unproductive and dangerous.
Congrats on having the same exact policies as an average billionaire, very proud of you, make sure to put a rug or something under your knees so they don’t get bruised
we need immigrants as much as they need us
If we ignore AI, automation, and the fact that America already has countless useless jobs that shouldn’t exist, sure.
they commit significantly less crime than native born Americans
Every single crime committed by a foreigner is fundamentally avoidable.
However, the issue of immirgation can be easily resolved by modifying the existing system. If people like you start acting as sponsors for immigrants - like, for example, every person can sponsor… idk, 4-5 people at most? - and if said immigrants commit a crime, you share responsibility with them, I’m sure many people would accept it.
Of course, if an immigrant commits a murder, you’d go to jail as well; if they steal, you’d be held accountable as well, if they bring down wages of native citizens, you will pay out of your pocket to make up for it, etc - seem rather reasonable, no? You get what you want - immigrants - and you get to take on responsibility of it, and deal with consequences of it, instead of offloading people you fetishize onto the rest of society while pretending to be a good person™, and taking no responsibility when your ideals crash against reality
Why all the tricks to make the peasants work hard ?
Did not the Great Generation win that war ?
Arbeit macht frei ?
Unions membership is a shadow of what it used to be. The failure to stick up for workers is a big part of it. When will unions support American Workers?
Trying to paint illegal immigrants in a positive light by calling them hard working, is simply more BS. Why not say "hard working church going who help little old ladies across the street"?
I saw the numbers from the Bureau of Labor Statics, the St Louis Fed. Of all the job gains post pandemic they've all gone to workers born outside the US. US born worker new jobs has flatlined. Support workers of get out of the way so some or that does can rise up.